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Most supported premises
There is not sufficient evidence to justify belief in a god.
Whether the comment resembled something from youtube or not, does not directly speak to the veracity of the comment, nor the soundness of its reasoning.
5 supporter.
There is no life after death
There is no historical fact which could prove the veracity of all the claims of the bible.
4 supporter.
Abortion should be illegal.
Assuming the cells do belong to a being equal in legal status to the woman, it is still the right of the woman to do what she wants with her body. E.g. someone needs your blood, kidnaps you, hooks you up to them, are you legally obligated to sustain the other person? Are you even morally obligated?
3 supporter.
There is no life after death
A book is not an adequate authority. Particularly one which refers back to itself, is translated multiple times over thousands of years inconsistently, is internally inconsistent and historically inaccurate among other reasons.
3 supporter.
1 fallacy report.
Appeal To Belief
There is no life after death
Something cannot come from nothing because all that is has always been. The word, "nothing" has, unsurprisingly, no content, and so is meaningless. For there to be something that comes from "nothing" is a logical impossibility. Even in genesis there was always God, and therefore, never nothing.
2 supporter.
All religion should be abolished
There is no governing body with enough authority to coerce its people to stop religious practices. For example, the federal gov. in USA, as of now, legally could not due to the Bill of Rights.
2 supporter.
2 fallacy report.
Irrelevant Conclusion
There is no life after death
It is arguable that our physical bodies and its processes do make up a large or,if not, significant portion of what we might call our identity. E.g. predispositions (likes and dislikes, talents), gender, effects from the impressions from our social context etc.
2 supporter.
emperor Palpatine wasn't really evil
He didn't turn him into a Jedi, he manipulated him into becoming a Sith Lord. Obi-Wan trained him to be a Jedi.
2 supporter.
Sometimes it's rational to be "immoral"
This only holds up if acting in self interest is what is always rational. If it's assumed being moral is in itself our goal "b/c" it will bring happiness, then being moral is always in our self interest. Edit: added "b/c", check below for a more detailed argument.
1 supporter.
1 fallacy report.
Begging The Question
Sometimes it's rational to be "immoral"
For example, someone who takes credit for another's work to get a raise. Socrates would say that the worker has enslaved himself to his greed and isn't being rational, which would bring him satisfaction.
1 supporter.